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theologies, language professors, social worker, and journalist, probably
some other that I forgot right now. But no matter their profession
they all have to follow and know and analyses and implement in their
work relevant judgements of the European Court of Human Rights.
In that sense we try to have lawyers who would be sensitive if I may
say so less strict and then other professions learn certain things about
law and implement in their day to day works. So, of course legal
profession is crucial in our institutions. It is very important but it is
also very important that we have other I would say softer professions
that would also help us as you mentioned to communicate more easily
what we mean in our strict legal terms.

CHAIR: Any questions from the floor or anyone who wants to take the floor
or any opinions. Please.

SİRPA RAUTIO (Director of Human Rights Center, Finland)
I have not much to add of course also in our case the majority of our
lawyers they are very good lawyers, they tend to be domestic lawyers
so they know in detail the domestic law also the administration how
it work. It is extremely important but I think other skills are needed as
well, lawyers can also learn new skills but we also need other specialists.
In particular I am missing pedagogues and the people who know how 3 rd INTERNATIONAL SYMPOSIUM ON OMBUDSMAN INSTITUTIONS
to communicate. I am sure when the ombudsman is doing inspections
he wants to have forensic expertise and other type of expertise that
you can also borrow. But I agree also that the others of course need to
be trained on human rights at least basic legal understanding.

CHAIR: Thank you.
MALTA - In our country we are debating these issues very hardly because the
government has decided after we have been for the last last six years
campaigning for setting up NHRI to set up this institution. What we
are considering in fact I prepared a document which is on our website
perhaps it might be of interest for you to examine it, but my idea is that
there is no real conflict between the NHRI and the ombudsman. And
therefore, I think the most thing that should be addressed is the setup
of the NHRIs. We have suggested that the human rights and equality
commission should be an umbrella institution which would include

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