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something  to  do  with  the  decisions  concerning  compensations  and
                  redresses concerning the complainants. Thank you very much.

                  CHAIR: Thank you. Let’s start with the Ombudsman of Slovenia to answer
                  the questions if you wish.

            JERNEJ ROVŠEK (Acting Ombudsman of Slovenia)

                  Yes, very briefly, this is the problem, as I mentioned we have competence
                  only relation to public sector. We are authorized according to our law
                  to  propose  compensation  to  state  institution,  to  individual  and  we
                  do it very often when it is very clear the reason and the relation to
                  the human right violation, so it is very rarely but few times we were
                  successful. Usually individual have to go to the court. Thank you.

            CALLIOPE SPANOU (Ombudsman of Greece)

                  Thank you. The fact that in certain cases there is this new legal tool the
                  shifting of the burden of proof does not mean that the principle of the
                  presumption in a sense is not valid any more. It is an exception that
                  functions within this principle for certain cases for reasons that have
                  to do with specific problems appearing there. It is because usually this
                  is a legal tool that is used also for other kinds of discrimination and   3 rd  INTERNATIONAL SYMPOSIUM ON OMBUDSMAN INSTITUTIONS
                  also at work place. It is a general legal tool for discrimination. And it
                  has to do with the fact those who are discriminated against are usually
                  the weakest part. And they hesitate to come forward as we said few
                  minutes ago to denounce and to claim their rights to protection. In
                  that case this tool tries to reinforce a little bit their position but as I
                  said earlier it is very difficult tool to use. It doesn’t mean by definition
                  that we shift or the court shifts the burden of proof, there has to be
                  enough evidence in order to ask the other side to prove the opposite.
                  And of course at the end it is a matter of how the court will assess this
                  evidence from both sides, so the court is always at the end, what the
                  ombudsman does is to try to find out and we can also have examine
                  witnesses we can have also the position on oath so there are certain
                  techniques in order to try and establish the facts. If it is not possible
                  then we say, “it is not possible” and the next step is to go to the court
                  which has more powers and more means to do it. But let’s not take the
                  most difficult cases of a difficult legal technique let’s take normal cases,


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